Rejected Ban Appeal - چوب کاج خوب است

Now if you can't tell when you are spawn camping and should stop then you are pretty oblivious to the current situation at hand.

 

There are several witnesses that can testify about you spawncamping, so that covers up about evidence.

You've been warned on multiple occasions and the message "Stop spawncamping" despite kicks apparently didn't reach into your head.

So why should you be unbanned, again?

 

I kick and ban a ton of people like you. If you think I were to be bothered taking this so called "proof" of every single guy I ban you'd have to be an idiot.
And don't lie to me either. I gave you several. Are you having some kind of mod or installation that makes you olbivious to what's happening on the middle of the screen? Using the /csay command makes a message appear for everyone to see. In the middle of the screen.
Do I need proof for warning you aswell?
Don't be ridicolous. I've been administrating this server for just about year now and people like you come and go all the time.
If you're trying to convince me you're actually sorry, it's not working by a long shot. And whatever you hear from other sources (Which shall remain unnamed so far but I got a pretty good guess) regarding how I handle the server when I'm in there isn't relevant at all.
Also I ignored your friend request bluntly. Maybe I should have accepted and gotten a good giggle out of it.
This is for RedName to decide.
I won't argue with you any further, I'll be busy 'til later this evening. (Meaning I can't come back to check which direction this goes)
Don't ignore admins talking to you, don't break the rules, and lying won't get you anywhere.

 

Seeing you are being prepotent towards me I'll be brief. If I see a message in the middle of the screen (there are lots of them), how could I coinsider it a warning, if the message is not describing what I'm doing?

Don't call me liar, you won't get me that way.

 

I am still steadfast that he deserves a second chance. If you did something wrong, got permabanned and you made an app like this you would want that second chance, sometimes you got to give them a chance before they can prove they are worthy of said chance.

 

So the message "Chinese guy, stop spawncamping" isn't clear enough for you?
There weren't even anyone else doing anything at the time, the message were only ment for you.
I feel so sorry for you if you honestly didn't understand that.
For those who're wondering he had some asian symbols as a nickname. Or something, I dunno.

 

Now you're lying, since I have never seen that.

 

Because I enjoy the server, everyone needs a second chance, everyone can change and I'd be as talkative as a rock.

 

Lets think about this conceptually. Yes, you said you're sorry, but an admins job does NOT involve considering the life backround, enviroment and social climate of the players life before banning him/her.
as dakte said, 2fort isnt the place to discuss politics, nor to deprecate any country. Now, I know you have some connections with a few of our admins, *cough* but you should really watch your tone. They won't always be able to help you.

 

Lel. So.
I've spoken with Dakte about everything and I presume he knows that I'm gonna try and defend my buddy, although it's gonna be hard.
I wasn't on the server when he got banned so I really don't know how it happened and in which style, but I know that even if he's been perm'd, he didn't really deserve this. I know that in previous few weeks Dakte has been accused of hacking by Chinese Guy, currently named Chorizo Picante, but as I said - I spoke to him and he promised not to say anything in that kind of type anymore. It stopped, everything was cool, pink flowers, birds singing, 2fort is getting spammed, bans come and go blabla, and then Boom. Permaban, with a reason "breaking the server rules", but what rules? I know it's been explained right now, but still - it wasn't explained back then.
Apparently the reason for a ban was antisemitism, but all Chorizo said was "Israel are nazis of 21st century". He didn't say "israel jews pls gas ha ha fokers i wunna get banned". I agree that saying "Israel is cancer" wasn't really appropriate. But imagine this:
King Gottam or whatever he is, keeps spamming this retarded "VIVA LA ISRAEL" all the god damn time. Wouldn't you get pissed? I also must agree he needs to kinda stop that cause it's annoying. It's like saying "Israel is better than any of you mother hubbards, get out of my way, king is coming". That's not fair either, is it?
I think the most peaceful way would be to lower the ban into temporary. As I said I've spoken to Dakte and he knows what I think about this case. (also saying that because my short-term memory sucks and I already forgot half the chat teehee.)
Seriously. Let's not be Nazis. FoG is supposed to be fun. I know Chorizo gets mad sometimes and can't stop himself from saying something stupid, but let's be honest, we're humans not robots. What I would ask for there is, @Ying you need to chill a bit, I used to say crap aswell but that really doesn't help, it only makes it worse (you remember ALG don't you.). If you get mad by what some people say just turn the chat off from the console and focus on the game. @Admins of FoG community - our servers are fun. I know we're not really tolerating people like that but I'd ask for another chance. You gave it to me - give it to him aswell.
Wall of text ends here.
kthxbai
PJ.
Does anyone know how to make striked text btw? I can't seem to find this anywhere. Just something that pisses me off.

 

How do I upload pics again

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/599795/forshowings/mhm.png

inb4 "I'm a gril btw"
Yeah he said a tiny bit more than that.
While I do admit that's horribly annoying I didn't see that at the time.
This is again, my bad, as it was out of context.
Doesn't change what he has done nor said, though.
And, "Chorizo", I did warn you. Specifically. Don't push it.

 

Cheeky I respect you and your opinion is as valid as my own, but you're kinda blind-facing a few of the facts here..

Zero tolerance, it's nothing to do with being a 'Nazi' (it's in fact entirely opposite) - we don't stand for discrimination in any form, we want players to be as comfortable as possible within the servers, if there's a guy spamming text and promoting his country above others then you grab an admin, not shout out in retaliation to purposely offend them (and possibly someone else in the process).

Personally I believe Dakte was within every right to PB this guy and should stay so.

He's had previous warnings for behavior as you confirmed... I don't see fit to give him another chance myself, but it's up to you admins.

 

yeahsurewhateversoamiand?doigetafreeunusualforthat?
*cough*
Just cause he said US is ruled by jews still doesn't show much of antisemitism for me. On the other hand the example I wrote - yes. I won't push it either, I leave it to Noname.
Goodluck.

 

Don't get me wrong either, I really hate people that discriminate others for being different, and not that I'm defending them. I know he had his warnings, I know he was kicked a few times. It's just sometimes someone still deserves a second chance.
Let's see what we'll get out of this sauce.

 

Gonna have to agree with Spartan and Cheeky on this one.
The guy deserves a second chance and the reasons for that are the following:

1) He made an application right away after being banned (which tells me he cares for the server and likes playing there as he did mention in the app)
2) He did, well I can not deny that he insulted the whole Israel nation. But he did say hes sorry and wont happen again(I would give him a chance and monitor his behavior if the insults(racism) continues, well too bad then)
3) He seems to defend himself every time a member of this community complains against him for some reason, he tries to explain and ofc says that he is sorry(meaning again; That our servers really mean a lot to him.)

Btw the application is IMO really good for a guy who doesn't care for his actions, I'm still gonna defend my self that he said; He is sorry for all his actions.

So well yeah I stick to the point to give him a second chance.

@n0name its up to you.

 

Thanks Cheeky PJ, HQGroup and Spartan for considering me.

 

So somewhere along them lines it's okay to say that?, also when you mention he'd get pissed if someone was spamming 'viva la Israel' you could easily ignore him, and anyway, it isn't a random players job to sort out the offender, in fact, it's your job, he could of also reported him, but he didn't, he decided to lash out, resulting in him getting punished, it's his fault no one else's, I vote that the ban stays.

EDIT: Also refrain from posting this type of garbage:

 

You are right, I should have reported it, but it all happened really fast.I know I should have refrained from saying that, I actually felt kind of bad the moments after, wondering if I exceeded or not. Just an error I learned something from, but I cannot do anything to repair that, it's already done. I apoligise for it.

 

Well, i'll have to agree with everyone here.
What he said might be wrong, but everyone deserves a second chance.

Let's wait until n0name makes the final decision.

 

Oh, so Dakte can post that kinda shit and I can't? Why would that be? Is (s)he better or something in any case? Please tell me about it.
Also, towards the "but all Chorizo said was "Israel are nazis of 21st century"." I didn't mean it's ok to say that, I meant that wasn't antisemitism for me.

From what I've heard aswell, weren't you gonna "leave" this community anyway, or something, for getting banned for exactly antisemitism? I dunno where do I search for this but I'm sure I've seen that post somewhere on the forum.