Declined A trade/idle suggestion.

Discussion in 'Suggestions (archive)' started by Pudgey, Oct 2, 2015.

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Add donator weps to help with masses of campers?

  1. Yes, add this shit.

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  2. No, its stupid.

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  1. Pudgey

    Pudgey Shinji did nothing wrong Member

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    No, i am not.

    I say what i said "Yes, but it wont stop the camping from what ever exit there is, you know the player base on trade right?"

    The weapons, if added will help combat the mass spawncamping that regularly happens.

    I dont know where you got the thread being useless from.
     
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    Pudgey Shinji did nothing wrong Member

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    You suggested changing the spawn altogether, which really wouldnt stop the spawncamping that goes on more often than you presume.
     
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    Ok, so you want a mega kill all gun. However, when you place those FF enabled stickies/other and you blow them up you will be GETTING TONNES OF GAMMEPOINTS and also KILLING INNOCENT people aswell, so imagine this, I am a soldier having a duel and my enemy runs into the spawn and I shoot him, now I get blown up instantly because others are spawncamping? Seems fair? No.

    Now

    I am a spy on the opposite team to the spawncampers I slip out and am killed by this admin gun because I was attacking the spawnkillers when it went off. Sounds like fun??


    Lastly, I Am an admin, I have had a bad day, I use this gun more than I should because I am angry/annoyed/easy to retaliate. Loads of people are killed by it but no proof can be given of abuse as you can say it was directed at spawncampers??

    Its too easily abused and too many normal players would get caught up. Just slay them and be done with it.

    -1000
     
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    Pudgey Shinji did nothing wrong Member

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    You are really overreacting to how overpowered this weapon is, it isnt a nuclear bomb you tart B)
     
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    so then just dont give it friendly fire and aim a bit
     
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    Pudgey Shinji did nothing wrong Member

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    I was going to say this just now, thanks for doing it for me

    And yeah, just switch team real fast to take care of it in like what? less than 10 seconds?
     
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    /slay @aim.

    It may be a bit iffy but if you cannot /slay @aim then I give up.
     
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    The command is broken, sometimes it works fine, sometimes it doesn't respond and sometimes it slays innocent players

    Since then, I never used it again.
     
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    Pudgey Shinji did nothing wrong Member

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    Yeah, its fucked. Dont know about other servers but on trade its faulty as fuck.
     
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    chickpoint Awesome Member Legacy Management Moderator

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    Then I want a Ban Hammer!!!!!!

    Just no, it will be abused. I can assure you. This is why you can make binds!!! for example
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    bind [anykey] "sm_slay @aim
    
     
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    read my last post
    every command can be abused
    if you dont want abusers as admins, stop +1'ing applicants blindly.
     
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    chickpoint Awesome Member Legacy Management Moderator

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    Nah a weapon is way more sensitive to being abused for lols, our commands are being logged and we can punish people who abuse them. A weapons has no logging so I am against it since it will be dangerous.
     
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    Never saw it happen that it got checked nor that it got used as proof for any abuser. Most abuse reports where filed with a demo, so?
     
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    The general argument of this suggestion means that a weapon like this is in a high risk of being abused.
    And the concerns aren't without good reasons, a weapon like this would really be pretty nasty if its power is just too tempting. At the same time, it's a little sad to see that the general belief is that it'd be abused in an instant; is it really that hard for our admins?

    When I held a certain uber stickybomb launcher, I felt barely any issues personally - but it's an individual question in the end.

    And on a more serious note, I don't think that we need a super weapon to deal with the problem faster.
    It'd be funny and effective, but not exactly mandatory.
     
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    Pudgey Shinji did nothing wrong Member

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    With a faulty command, i honestly think there is.
     
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    chickpoint Awesome Member Legacy Management Moderator

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    The main problem I got with a "super weapon" is that if there is a complaint we can't check the logs. I know people never noticed that we check them but we most certainly do when something happens! A "super weapon" doesn't have the logging on it and has no added value to the commands we already have now. As I said, you can bind the slay to a key and you can kill people real quick and effectively.


    I know that it maybe sounds a bit cruel to say that I expect it to be abused, but if there are no logs there is nothing we can do to defend our admins or our players in case something happens and someone doesn't take a demo. You can understand we want proof of something and not just randomly guessing what happend. So it works in both ways. Just keep in mind that practice isn't as perfect as theory and we should think of all the worst case scenarios. This was one of them.


    Second case is that we get GameME and it will record the kills as a score, which gives you an unfair advantage on the ranking when you kill a vast amount of spawn campers with it.
     
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    Pudgey Shinji did nothing wrong Member

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    Is there anyway this weapon can remove score gain? Like can someone make it so this will happen?
     
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    .ax idk Legacy Management

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    This isn't really a valid argument since you can farm points at the idlers on Achi which gives you an unfair advantage too. For example the current nr2 player has got all his points from doing that.

    EDIT: I guess I could say my opinion about this too..

    At first this seemed like a good idea, but can't you just put godmode on and kill all the spawncampers? Please correct me if I'm wrong but that's atleast been allowed in the past.

    The "donator" weapon indeed is a cool superduperhypermadmlg thing but it would be a bit pointless imho.
     
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    Pudgey Shinji did nothing wrong Member

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    Now i know the secret.
     
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    Downie CEO of Downcorp Retired Staff Member

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    Like i said before. Not gonna happen.
     
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