Implemented sv_use_steam_voice 0

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  1. Sky

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    Okay so I'm suggesting it here since our nice little steam chat with n0 went pure "idgaf" after a time.

    I'd like to suggest sv_use_steam_voice to be set to 0 on all servers.

    My (and a few other people's, yes i'm sure) issue is the same as the latter discussion about it on my "Incredibly slow client" thread.
    I'm unable to talk.
    Some people are having problems like being able to talk but nobody can hear him, n other stuff, i'm just having the basic gamefreeze @ pressing V issue. (No, the driver updates did not help actually)
    I did a tiny research and what I got so far is if it's set to 1 it only prevents micspamming with outside softwares like HLDJ. Quite pointless since micspamming with other methods is still possible and happens quite a lot.
    Correct me if I'm wrong though.

    Or, if all servers is not going to work, at least set it to that on jb and dr. Talking is what I pretty much liked to do in tf2 and would appreciate if I can do it again.

    I demand an explanation on why not it's going to be implemented if it's not going to be implemented. What's the worst that can happen?

    Thanks.
     
  2. Bunnie_Lord

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    IDK if the difference in quality is noticable, but that is the reason they implemented it at the time.

    Btw, have you tried this?
     
  3. F7are

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    Oh. I see. >*(

    By the way, did you test if this is really the case on several servers where it's set to different values, or did you only try it on Ach/Id and DR?

    Most of this is meant for the server anyway; the rate commands are used for client-side, and most of these commands only impact quality, not stability. Most configs also set these for you, and considering Sky has tried using these, I doubt it'll help.
     
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    Even if the problems are fixed, I'd still keep the idea of setting the sv_use_steam_voice to 0. As it has been said, external audio devices (like HLDJ) could play sounds through-mic, which would pretty much bring new players. As in, I looked for servers with that enabled, and that's pretty much why I joined back then, there were literally only 3 servers with sv_use_steam_voice 0. Also, not everyone is going to know about the way to fix their settings to make their mic work without sv_use_steam_voice 0, so yeah. It's a +1 from me.
     
  5. Jozan

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    Micspamming on our servers generally are forbidden, though it has become a thing where we admins can "give permission" for this (on servers like idle).
    What weight does arguments about micspammers hold when we don't really endorse it?
     
  6. F7are

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    Honestly, I think micspamming as a whole should fall outside the scope of there being the Steam voice codec or not. After all, micspammers will always find a way ( WinAMP + V.A.C. ).

    I do think the variable should be set to 0; even though it may make the voice a bit muddier and harder to understand, it would fix this for many players with the same issue.
     
  7. Sky

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    Yup.

    Yup.


    Micspammers will always micspam, HLDJ is just a method of hundreds.
    And the shitty quality can be fixed with not talking to the mic directly + boosting up the volume. Or buy a new one. Seriously, they're not expensive.
     
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  8. F7are

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    Not quite. There is a bitrate attached to audio, which dedicates how fast your computer / sound card / whatever is allowed to process what you're playing / filesize. If the bitrate's low, filesizes go down (which should also reduce CPU usage on the servers), but quality goes down. However, the same rule as with something as image resolution applies; up to a certain point it will be very difficult to distinguish the difference in quality.

    I'm pretty convinced the difference between Speex and the old codec is minimal, so setting it to 0 to accomodate all who have this issue would have a positive impact on the popularity of the servers.
     
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  9. n0name

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    Not sure if I want to add this to all servers, mainly the trades, achievement and possibly mkart.
     
  10. Sky

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    Forget it, I just need a new PC.

    Also, dr_dlux is not on the nomination list, could you, like, re-add it or smth?
     
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    It should actually be in there, dr_dlux_tf2_v8
     
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    Oh well, I failed.
    The 'tf' was wrong there, removed it.

    Should be fixed after next mapchange.
     
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