Resolved Downie

In a nutshell:
Downie banned a player (Krupp) for 1 week for expressing his thoughts on the forum.
It's an absolutley disgraceful behaviour!


admins, please check this here for my real attitude -> http://www.f-o-g.eu/threads/absolutley-disgraceful-behaviour.433/

Whatever
A Smashing Gent
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im on the sideline here but he considered it justified to do it.

 

Am I the only one on this forum who's capable of reading?
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Team Fortress 2 - Server Rules​

You read that? You read that?
SERVER! SERVER RULES
Downie is not a moderater of the forum! This is n0name's job!
If you don't get what I'm saying, don't reply to this fucking thread!
You cannot ban someone from the servers because of what he said in the forum!!!!!!

 

well because the ban was used on a server the server rules aply to the ban
even if the rule breaking happened on the forum.
if he was a forum mod it would be an forum ban for ..long

 

I was banned on all servers, not only trade. You guys made it impossible for me to play on any server for at least 16 hours for something I said on the forum.
Banned by people who doesn't have the rights to act as moderators forum-wise that is. Does it sound right to you? If it was someone else than me, is it different then?
I'm starting to believe so. If it wasn't for my friend, I would have been unable to play on any server for 7 days, just because some of you don't like me.
That's incredible to say the least. "You should consider yourself lucky". Right. So if I wasn't lucky it should've been permanent? Permanently banned for accusations of spawnkilling
and for being rude on the forum. You really are dumbasses. <--- That's my personal opinion. (Ban me some more now?)

 

I wrote the rules so I'm on the rules' side.

 

Then please show us the rule which is saying what's happening on the forums will affect you on the game servers.

 

There is no such rule. I share your opinion about the extended ban being rubbish.

 

Thank you. That's all I needed to hear.

I will now continue with two quotes from cheatnow:

Since there is no such rule, how could it be justified to extend my ban? For personal interests of course, nothing else.
As far as I know, Downie has no power to do anything more than I do, because we're both just members here.
This is a typical example of abuse, and from my point of view, a very serious situation. A responsible owner of a gaming
community would have kicked such admins out. Because they aren't useful and could possibly do something even more
serious in the future. It may have already happen before this, but what do I know, I'm just a 'troublemaker'?

 

there is indeed no such rule.
But there is one dangerous rule in the rules that makes this possible.

and on the point i dont see you as trouble maker only as an interesting person to discus with.

 

Yes, which only applies to the game servers. The title clearly says "Team Fortress 2 Server Rules" and therefore cannot be applied for
something I'm expressing on the forum. It doesn't matter how you twist and turn this, it will always be only TF2 server rules.
So what's left to discuss regarding that? He apparently did something he's not expected/told/allowed to do, so why did he do it?
I think it's very obvious he got upset about something I said, and then took the liberty (as TF2 server admin) to get revenge on me since he couldn't take
the discussion with me. Naw, did I hurt little Downies feelings? Don't fuck with me then!

 

it didn't affect your forum account, and as far as i have searched i didnt find any "forum"rule to prevent this kind of behavior,
thus:

becasue of the so said "Server rules" state that bans on the "servers" are are at the discretion of the administrators, whether they do or do not conform to the rules listed
this makes it possible for an admin to ban you on so said "servers" for something on the forums,
so aslong as the rules stay unchanged this is how it can be appied.
I do not agree with this "ab"use of the rule in this way but the possibility is there

 

And again you're talking about something that has been listed as TF2 rules. This is not TF2. You see the difference? No?
You can't use a rabbit hole in the rules and use it against someone on the forum, when they clearly are only intended to be used in a game. How can he lift stuff off from both places and do whatever he think is justified to change with his power as a TF2 server admin? There is no such thing as logic here.
Enough said.

 

well was your forum account banned/changed ?

 

I see where Cheat is going. He means that an admin is allowed to ban you even if you breathe. They do not need to have a reason. I know this is an easily abusable rule, but it was built in to prevent certain people from doing certain things. (See: previous shitstorm ).
Don't get me wrong, it's still wrong, but that's what cheat is trying to explain.

 

No, but that's irrelevant. But to comment on that, as I said in my ban appeal, I'd think it would be more fair if I was banned from the forum if I break any rules here.
That was not what happened though, I was (as you already know well) banned from the game servers. I'm asking you again (maybe to prevent some more stupid questions from you)
how can he lift off stuff from both places (game servers and forum) and do whatever he feels justified and take actions as server admin and punish me on a game server for something I
said on the forum? Just answer that. No, I'll answer that: he can't. Simple. He just can't do that. Period.

 

agree its unfair
but the point im trying to make is
he can period
because bans on the servers are at the discretion of the administrators, whether they do or do not conform to the rules listed
so he can lift info from everywhere he could even ban you for as downy said breathing

 

So if I tell him in real life (hypothetically) he's a fucked up retard with no life, he can ban me in TF2? Because that's exactly the same principle.
Real life has as little to do with the game as this forum has.

 

aslong as there are no rules added to limit the use of the rule in question.
yes he can

 

The day you change the title to only "Rules", he can. But today, no.