Cataluñan independence

Discussion in 'Philosophy, debate & Politics' started by Tomorsomething, Nov 9, 2014.

  1. Tomorsomething

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    So today Cataluña (Area of Spain where I live) is having its vote on whether or not it should become independent, which has no benefits.
    In my opinion, Catalan people only want to feel special by being their own country, and they don't care about the fact that Cataluña wouldn't be part of the European Union, and also would have to change currency.

    What are your thoughts on this? Feel free to do more research and prove me wrong.
     
  2. Damiensdk

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    What's going to happen to Barcelona? I heard that they won't be able to play in La Liga
     
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    Is is a result of the Scottish referendum?
    Yeah, imo the simple notion of pride and the will to feel important as a country regardless of material needs is not a good enough reason to become independant, causing loads of new problems to solve.
     
  4. Tomorsomething

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    I'm not sure, but I think they're going to split up if it becomes independent.

    I doubt it is, people have been talking about it for a while.
    (Most) Catalans are impatient and ignorant, a few days ago they were banging pots and pans in favor of independence.
     
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    Independence is silly, the world is so mixed in together we may as well be one huge 'country', which I guess the EU already sorta is.

    I'm aware that a fair bit of the UK/England is wanting to pull out of the EU. Personally I feel we should be collaborating as a world these days... but hey, I'll keep dreaming.

    As for the Cata's, what's the official reason behind it apart from the whole pride thing discussed prior?
     
  6. Tomorsomething

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    Well according to this website, it's mostly pride (Being recognised as Catalans, their language, dignifying it's own culture, etc.), but a lot of it is bullshit.
    Fair enough.

    Catalan is a nearly dead language, and this is a pride reason.

    Pride reason.

    How will splitting away from Spain do anything to help the economy?

    Pride reason.

    Part pride, part fair enough.

    Fair enough.

    Not necessarily.

    Nothing is really stopping you from already doing it.

    Pride reason.

    Another problem is that the Catalans see themselves as slaves, even though they're not even close to being slaves.
     
  7. Ninja Otter

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    Galicia has it's own language yet I don't see them trying to get independence :)
     
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  8. Polygone

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    Reminds me of Hong Kong and China.
    HK is better then China by a long shot.
    Oh crap,they are breaking down my door...

    Enough about my nonsense.Back on topic.
    If they would break off and become another country wouldn't that rip a giant hole in they're infrastructure?
    I mean,completly demolish them?Identity Crisis and stuff.
     
  9. Ninja Otter

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    What do you mean? Demolish who?
     
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    Demolish the Cataluñan infrastructure/economy/etc.
     
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    Ah, well it won't demolish their identity tbh, but their economy will be utter shit if they split.
     
  12. Tomorsomething

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    Turns out the vote was a failure, little more than a third of the population voted at all, so it won't become independent. I'm pretty sure the people who voted were the only ones who wanted independence, so that's cool.
     
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    Or maybe the ones that didn't vote wanted independence but couldn't be arsed to vote.
     
  14. Tomorsomething

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    Doubt it, but maybe.
     
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