Rejected Ban Appeal - Kluus

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  1. Kluus

    Kluus Banned

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    | steamID32: STEAM_0:0:84036138
    | steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198128338004
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    What was your in-game name when you got banned?
    Kluus

    When did it happen?
    2.11.2016 19:06

    What's the specified reason?
    I got bannend with reason 'nazism' because i responded to someone saying 'heil hitler' with 'say it with more feeling - heil hitler'. I think the admin ravaid doesnt know what sarcasm is.

    Why do you think you should be unbanned?
    for the reason i explained above, ravaid did a more 'nazism move' than i did, didnt he?
     
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  2. Kluus

    Kluus Banned

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    btw. my profile picture makes fun of hitler and does not promotes him, sadly i have to explain this..
     
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    || Ravaid || Hi Member

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    You answered your appeal by your self

    "i responded to someone saying 'heil hitler' with 'say it with more feeling - heil hitler"
    you did say it

    One of our main rule is that anything related to nazism is a perma ban.
    Here is the proof http://plays.tv/video/581a4450b7e778e8f4/report-for-kluus
     
  4. Laos

    Laos Expert Surfer Member

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    Not the only occasion where you've shown racist tendencies.
    That's not something to make fun about.
    As you said by yourself you've gotta explain your ''jokes'':
    That does mean in fact that not everybody will understand that you mean it in a sarcastic way.
    For me the ban is reasoned.
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  5. Kluus

    Kluus Banned

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    as i mentioned, it was a sarcastic response to the guy saying it (0:00-0:01- as you can hear in the demo). your reaction is definately too excesssive and exagerated. if another guys or admins think the same way as you do i have to accept it. but you can clearly hear the tone of my voice that it was meant to be ironic. if this wasnt the only occasion you can probably show me proof of it? I'm known on this server for rather entertaining occasions than 'racist' ones.
     
  6. Kluus

    Kluus Banned

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    + first ban = perma ban? o_O
     
  7. Laos

    Laos Expert Surfer Member

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    Click on the Spoiler button below my last sentence.
     
  8. Kluus

    Kluus Banned

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    i did - you do understand that these puns are AGAINST hitler? why do i even have to explain this + i didn't play with these names on f.o.g server. It is kinda double moral that i get banned for responding but the guy who said it first is perfectly fine. Lastly 46 people on the server were not offended but 1 was (who coincidental was an admin). I'm in the position of a cry baby - i know, but wouldn't be a warning ban be more suitable than permanent ban?
     
  9. TheBluekr

    TheBluekr Creator of ClOS Member

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    Nazism is indeed something that isn't really tolerated at all, be it either a community or society. You can try to think of it as sarcasm but I would like to raise the question: "What would you expect that others think of it, especially those who has suffered from either it or the consequences?" What I find mostly justifying the ban is the chatlog provided, I consider it a subject that shouldn't be joked about at all, even if it's banter or sarcasm.
    This is just my opinion but I'll wait till the Admins responsible for this section will handle this appeal.
    -Blue
     
  10. Laos

    Laos Expert Surfer Member

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    You did play, at least with a few of them on our servers:
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  11. Kluus

    Kluus Banned

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    dudes it wasn nazism at all, this conversation will get to no point - you are right I would like to hear the opinions of other admins. By the way if you do not allow or forbid joking about these things (sarcasm, etc.) in an oppressive way it is way more facism than that what i did - it's oppressive
     
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    One more time, with feeling - it is nazism, read the rules and accept it, that guy's fault for saying heil hitler your fault for adding in the say it one more time, with feeling -.
     
  13. Venom

    Venom Jozzeh's Kouhai Retired Staff Member

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    Joking or not, anything nazism related is a permanent ban, and I believe the evidence is sufficient.

    Appeal Rejected.
     
  14. Yoda

    Yoda Genuinely crazy Moderator

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    I am allergic to people calling admins "nazi" for merely doing their job.
    Any tiny bit of nazism is prohibited on our servers. It is stated in the rules which you, the person playing on our servers, should read upon joining.
    Go ahead and raise your right hand in an angle that you can decide (preferebly over 90°) and scream "Heil Hitler" in public. See what happens and if the police will say "oh no problem when its just a joke"
     
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