Resolved Admin didn't apply the rules on everyone.

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  1. SenseiVince

    SenseiVince Member

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    Admin Name: Pudgey
    Time (format dd.mm.YYYY HH:mm): 7.12.2015 22:10
    Server: Trade/Idle : : F-o-G.eu -!backpack - !pc server.
    Description (describe what happend):

    Hello my name is SenseiVince,

    Today I was playing on the Trade/Idle : : F-o-G.eu -!backpack - !pc server.
    Nothing was amiss for a long time. Some people of both red and blu were inside the unusual effects room and just sitting there and not killing anyone. A player named Chase kept on coming in and killing everyone so I started focussing him. After a while Wolf started playing nice music and everyone stopped fighting except for Chase. At first I didn't kill him because he was in spawn, but he kept shooting me and other players that weren't doing anything. I was killing him and only him for a while until the admin slayed me. So I backed off. He kept killing us so I asked how I was supposed to kill him if he was camping in his own spawn? No reply. So I killed him again and got slain. I do not deny that this was a form of spawn camping, but how are we supposed to kill people that are camping in their own spawn and killing us as a sniper.

    After a few minutes the music stopped and the game resumed with everyone killing again. Now it was the blue team with 4-5 sniper sitting near the boxing ring with pocket medics spawncamping us. I called it out and then trouble started. Pudgey told me, quote: to "shut the fuck up". The camping continues for at least 5 minutes and I asked again. Still same reply.
    In the following screenshots you can see what he and I were typing. It's in the console because I had enough at some point and left the server.

    Witness (optional): /

    Proof (images, videos, demos): http://files.f-o-g.eu/4619a6
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  2. Darkregen

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    So, let me get this straight.

    You are reporting him because he killed you while you were "friendly" and because he didnt stop something that is isnt actual spawncamping.

    Alright.

    I will also bet that there is more to this story and you basically cut out bits where you said something back, judging from experience.
     
  3. Pudgey

    Pudgey Shinji did nothing wrong Member

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    person was "chale" btw he is an admin too he saw the whole thing

    tldr anyway i know what happened

    Literally most of blu were snipers fighting reds half way across the map, noone was camping directly outside of the spawn.

    This has never been an issue before, you're just quite upset that people were killing you.

    It wasnt my fault blu team had good players.
     
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    SenseiVince Member

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    You were sitting at the boxing ring near that room with the stairs. Everytime we popped our head out we got killed :) I'm not mad for getting killed, you were all better yes. Still you were camping and you (or another admin) typed don't spawncamp.
    @Darkregen@Darkregen: I put in the links in which you can see the entire conversation (except the thing pudgey typed in admin chat, which for some reason the console doesn't show). You can see everything there.
     
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  5. Pudgey

    Pudgey Shinji did nothing wrong Member

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    ergh i wanna shoot myself in the skull with a shotgun pal

    I got angry with you because you were simply too, how shall i put it.. uh "unknowing/stupid" that you tried arguing with me when i came across nicely the first time explaining it but you just continued to argue
     
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    For what? Asking you to make people stop spawn killing us so we can at least get out of our spawn...?

    We'll just wait for another admin to come who can resolve this.

    I know so I was just trying to ask them to stop spawnkilling us... But you told me to shut the fuck up...
     
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    Pudgey Shinji did nothing wrong Member

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    Because you were arguing at me, better than a gag right? and they were a fair enough distance away.

    I was gonna just say "mad cuz bad" or "get good" but its simply too immature of me.

    This is the last ill put on this report, its pretty stupid tbh

    Just and edit add: everyone was at a safe distance for shooting, snipins a gud job m8
     
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    SenseiVince Member

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    It wasn't at your own spawn that you were shooting from, but from the room which could look directly into our spawn when we walk a bit too far.

    Well if everyone was at safe distance that means it's a flaw in the rules :)
     
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  9. Chale

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    And here's the "retarded Chale" you were speaking of.
    So first thing, you just admitted that he was sniping behind a boxing ring which means it's a pretty long distance from spawn.
    Second thing, you admitted that you were spawncamping me but when you argued you claimed you are innocent or what? You seemed so desperate and took screenshots of the chat but not screenshots of "spawncamp" itself.
    Third thing, people told you to shut up (not in nicest way) but you kept claiming the same thing over and over, putting some thought after what you've read can be useful, just a friendly advice. ( I believe you know about snipers and spawncamping very well since you tried to apply for admin once.)
    I'd just to stop digging your own grave and quit wasting everyone's time.
    Have a nice day.

    EDIT: Another fact, spamming rockets in enemy spawn while hugging the invisible wall as soon as somebody pokes out counts a s spawncamping. Not sniping halfway across the map.
     
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  10. Downie

    Downie CEO of Downcorp Retired Staff Member

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    Hey @SenseiVince

    Thanks for pointing out your concerns.

    I will investigate the matter you mentioned and hope we can solve this in a good way.

    You will hear soon from me.
     
  11. Starfish

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    Telling a player to shut the fuck is very unprofessional.
    The same could be said for letting other players insult said person.
    Next to that after Vince leaves, Chale states that he has down syndrome.

    Next time I suggest gagging someone who questions you over and over, instead of making yourself look like an asshole.

    You guys are both taking a shit on this guy instead of EXPLAINING the boundaries of the rules to him.
     
  12. SenseiVince

    SenseiVince Member

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    Hi Chale. I never called you retarted now did I? So a bit uncalled for.

    I never claimed that I didn't spawn camp. I admit to it yes. The admin slayed me twice for it. But when others do the same thing I did nothing happens?

    People were sitting on the stairs and in front of them closest to our spawn. So not really half way across the map. Those people that were telling me to "shut the fuck up" was Wolf.

    At some point someone (no clue which admin) typed in the chat "quit spawn camping", meaning that they thought that it was spawncamping as well. No one got slain, no one got told again, and spawn camping continued.

    I applied for admin on the unusual server (because rarely I saw admins on there, apart from pointless from time to time. People were spamming the chat and mic spamming.)

    I left the server after a while and didn't take screenshots (Should've done so, but didn't think about it at the time), so the only thing I could take a screenshot off was the console chat.

    Also Chale, no one told you that you needed to reply here?
     
  13. Spartan

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    Just a bit of friendly advice, when reporting someone, do not make it personal.

    Saying that he shouldn't post here is wrong.
    Why?
    HE was one of the people you referenced.
    He was a witness.
    He is also an admin.

    The real question is?
    Why wouldn't he reply?
     
  14. SenseiVince

    SenseiVince Member

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    He said he didn't want to waste his time :) that's why I said why bother.
     
  15. Pudgey

    Pudgey Shinji did nothing wrong Member

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    Perhaps I am in the wrong a minor part by telling you to "shut the fuck up" rather than just simply gagging you.

    This report is all centered around me not enforcing rules correctly.

    I am gonna be nice about this, the people who were killing you Sensei were not breaking any rules, they were at least a 3rd of the map away from the spawn.
     
  16. Chale

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    Oh, must have confused you for someone else calling me a retard, apologies. 862cf866fc.png (please let me play the game I want in peace, thanks)
    But still, you mentioned me here and I was the witness so I have all rights to reply.
    Yes even I can admit that the map is kind of shitty so it's possible to spawncamp as sniper no matter the distance, so that's why it's allowed from a distance. Pudge tried to explain (maybe not the nicest way possible) but you kept implying the same which was pretty dumb. Even though this report isn't related to me I'll stop posting now. Best thing to do now is wait for the verdict and not make shit more complicated.
     
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    I got slain when I was at the same distance those guys were whilest sniping and yet I got slain?
    The 2nd time I was indeed very close to the spawn to get to Chale, so I'm not arguing about that.

    In my opinion the rules here are not that good.
    Rockets aren't allowed at that distance, but snipers are.

    You should've gagged me then if you didn't want to listen to my arguments, if that is your solution when one of your server visitors has a complaint.
     
  18. Pudgey

    Pudgey Shinji did nothing wrong Member

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    This i find hard to believe, i never slay people that far out. Even if this did happen, was not me.

    I only ever slayed you once when you were soldier at roughly 2 meters from the spawn exit.
     
  19. Spartan

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    This is where I do not get this report.
    Pardon my intrusion.
    So, if I was a pro sniper, I can spawn camp all I want from a distance.
    Yet if I am someone looking for kills near the spawn, it is suddenly spawncamping?

    Sorry, I still do not follow, please explain the "Difference"?
    Why does distance from suddenly make it alright.

    Spawncamping is the act of camping towards a spawn and killing anyone who tries to leave it.
    Yeah, you can be 100 meters away, but if you are killing people who are trying to leave it, they are stuck in spawn and won't be able to have fun around the map.
     
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    Pudgey Shinji did nothing wrong Member

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    Its just the boundaries in place Spartan, you have like never played there have you?
     
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