Archived Cheiron | 1 more exam *Runner*

Subject: STEAM_0:1:53298374 (Cheiron | 1 more exam)

Victim:
|steamID: Twonk Thunder
|steamID32: STEAM_0:1:25094021
|steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198010453771
|customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/TwonkThunder
|steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198010453771


Scammer:
|steamID: Cheiron | 1 more exam
|steamID32: STEAM_0:1:53298374
|steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198066862477
|customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/soIMudHl
|steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198066862477


Screenshots:
1 1 out of 7.png http://files.f-o-g.eu/6eg8be
2 2 out of 7.png http://files.f-o-g.eu/fdbe82
3 3 out of 7.png http://files.f-o-g.eu/dg957a
4 4 out of 7.png http://files.f-o-g.eu/b8e7e7
5 5 out of 7.png http://files.f-o-g.eu/7d02ab
6 6 out of 7.png http://files.f-o-g.eu/acdg3d
7 7 out of 7.png http://files.f-o-g.eu/a3e5b8

Description: "Cheiron | 1 more exam" contacted me to sell his tf2 item for him, it was a cloudy moon el jefe, in the chat I told him of two types of brokering I do, one where you keep the item and I help you sell it while it stays safely in your inventory, and two where I hold the item and sell it for you. *You will see all of this in the chat*. He said he will give me 10% of the proceeds which comes out to around 17 keys, I usually charge 20% but I thought,"Eh what the hell this guy is nice", anyways, the man I got him in contact with to sell it for pure he contacts and does the deal, which he immediately turns around and blocks me, tried to get in contact with him to tell him he needs to pay me, needless to say. Here I am. The screenshots should show the full story.
Also here is his trade on tf2outpost, he copied it just like I told him to. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26618344

Code:

Twonk Thunder: Hello friend
Cheiron | 1 more exam: greetings
Twonk Thunder: How may i helpith
Cheiron | 1 more exam: all right
Cheiron | 1 more exam: I have a tf2 item
Cheiron | 1 more exam: and I want to sell it
Twonk Thunder: Okay, Guessing its the cloudy moon el jefe
Cheiron | 1 more exam: yes
Cheiron | 1 more exam: but I have no idea how much it costs in keys
Cheiron | 1 more exam: can you help me?
Twonk Thunder: I dont see why not, I have nothing better to do.
Twonk Thunder: I do two types of brokering.
Twonk Thunder: Assisted. And Full
Cheiron | 1 more exam: sure
Cheiron | 1 more exam: I can give you a %
Twonk Thunder: Assisted I give you advice on trading and tell you to take a deal or not.
Twonk Thunder: Full I do the full trading.
Twonk Thunder: Usually assisted is what people go for.
Cheiron | 1 more exam: I want a mix.
Cheiron | 1 more exam: if you find the buyer I give you 10% of the amount
Twonk Thunder: Okay then.
Cheiron | 1 more exam: so how much it is worth?
Twonk Thunder: Did you unbox it? Do you know its history?
Cheiron | 1 more exam: no
Cheiron | 1 more exam: traded
Cheiron | 1 more exam: i ahve no idea about tf2
Cheiron | 1 more exam: honestly
Twonk Thunder: Your a CS:GO guy i can tell from your knives
Cheiron | 1 more exam: yep :D
Twonk Thunder: Bcuz im obviously a detective...
Twonk Thunder: *kek(
Cheiron | 1 more exam: i told that it is duped
Cheiron | 1 more exam: I was told*
Twonk Thunder: Clean or Not
Twonk Thunder: Its one of three on the market
Twonk Thunder: Out of nine
Twonk Thunder: It can vary form around... 250 keys to 350
Twonk Thunder: So its around like. $580-$620
Cheiron | 1 more exam: and if I want the keys in max 24 hours?
Twonk Thunder: What did you trade it for?
Twonk Thunder: In like what are you looking to get out of it?
Cheiron | 1 more exam: keys or csgo items
Cheiron | 1 more exam: perfect will be csgo keys
Twonk Thunder: Like I mean a amount
Cheiron | 1 more exam: i traded my knife for 2 knives and this hat
Cheiron | 1 more exam: so it costed me like 50 keys
Twonk Thunder: Wait....
Twonk Thunder: Its third of the trade
Cheiron | 1 more exam: and I want the max amount
Twonk Thunder: Is 50 keys?
Cheiron | 1 more exam: yep
Twonk Thunder: IT was only a fifty key valued amount?
Twonk Thunder: Dude nice trade
Cheiron | 1 more exam: yes
Twonk Thunder: Super jealous
Cheiron | 1 more exam: I doubpted
Cheiron | 1 more exam: if you know dota2 trading
Cheiron | 1 more exam: there are items that are on market with 300 euro, but are worth 0.05 euro
Cheiron | 1 more exam: :D
Twonk Thunder: I know
Twonk Thunder: But dude...
Twonk Thunder: Holy shit. good trade
Cheiron | 1 more exam: yeah :)
Twonk Thunder: You made like crazy profit
Twonk Thunder: Anywho
Cheiron | 1 more exam: not as crazy
Twonk Thunder: If you wanted a quick trade.
Twonk Thunder: Like
Cheiron | 1 more exam: i traded my old knife that was 400 keys for my new one that is about 900 :D
Twonk Thunder: You could quicksell it for around 400 keys
Cheiron | 1 more exam: 400 keys?
Twonk Thunder: Its valued at 200 more than that
Twonk Thunder: But someone would instantly jump on that offer
Cheiron | 1 more exam: what do you mean by "on market"?
Twonk Thunder: Hmm?
Cheiron | 1 more exam: what is "on market"?
Twonk Thunder: On
Twonk Thunder: OH*
Twonk Thunder: Theres only three out of nine in existance
Twonk Thunder: Up for sale
Cheiron | 1 more exam: where?
Cheiron | 1 more exam: are they sold
Twonk Thunder: http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/251657027
Twonk Thunder: A search... including yours
Cheiron | 1 more exam: I see
Cheiron | 1 more exam: and how can I find that there are 9 max?
Twonk Thunder: Shit sorry. Did I say 9 meant 6
Twonk Thunder: Item Information - Cloudy Moon El Jefe - backpack.tf
Cheiron | 1 more exam: well, so if you want to help me with the trade I will appreciate
Twonk Thunder: I can.
Twonk Thunder: Would you like me to fully take over the trade? Or what my friend
Cheiron | 1 more exam: yes, but with the item in my inventory
Twonk Thunder: Okay.
Cheiron | 1 more exam: csgo keys will be the best
Twonk Thunder: So on your trade heres what I want you to change it to
Twonk Thunder: Quickselling this Cloudy Moon El Jefe
Twonk Thunder: One second lemme write it on a text document
Cheiron | 1 more exam: ok
Twonk Thunder: Okay
Twonk Thunder: Post this on your trade
Twonk Thunder: Quickselling this Cloudy Moon El Jefe
It is not clean, but it is one of three on the market.

As a CS:GO trader this does not interest me, but alas.
Im selling this beautiful hat for 500 CS:GO Keys or 520 Tf2 Keys
Looking to get rid of this guy within the next few days. 
NOT INTERESTED IN OTHER HATS so please do not offer any.
Twonk Thunder: Or... if you want to sell it even faster... Just put in on the steam community market for $400
Twonk Thunder: And I mean..
Twonk Thunder: Itll probably go in a day
Cheiron | 1 more exam: 520 keys???
Cheiron | 1 more exam: wtf :D
Twonk Thunder: But... Youll get a fraction of the price
Twonk Thunder: Yep
Twonk Thunder: You got a good item mate
Cheiron | 1 more exam: I see the clean one going for 250
Cheiron | 1 more exam: and backpack price is 300
Cheiron | 1 more exam: are you sure that I can get 400?
Twonk Thunder: Wait a minute... I mixed up keys and dollars...
Twonk Thunder: GG
Cheiron | 1 more exam: :D
Twonk Thunder: *back to the board*
Cheiron | 1 more exam: so I can ask 200 and 180?
Twonk Thunder: Yes.
Twonk Thunder: 200 being tf2 and 180 being cs:go
Cheiron | 1 more exam: yeah
Twonk Thunder: Quick little lapse in my brain, dont mind that.
Twonk Thunder: Hahehe
Twonk Thunder: Quickselling this Cloudy Moon El Jefe
It is not clean, but it is one of three on the market.

As a CS:GO trader this does not interest me, but alas.
Im selling this beautiful hat for 180 CS:GO Keys or 200 Tf2 Keys
Looking to get rid of this guy within the next few days. 
NOT INTERESTED IN OTHER HATS so please do not offer any.
Twonk Thunder: There you go
Cheiron | 1 more exam: TF2 Outpost / Trade
Cheiron | 1 more exam: check
Cheiron | 1 more exam: as promised 10% will go to you :)
Twonk Thunder: Looks good
Twonk Thunder: Sounds good friend
Cheiron | 1 more exam: can I put 5 trades?
Cheiron | 1 more exam: or 1 is enough?
Twonk Thunder: One should be enough
Cheiron | 1 more exam: but If I put 5, i may get more offers, no?
Twonk Thunder: You can only have one trade up for one item\
Twonk Thunder: Its a rule
Cheiron | 1 more exam: are there any other methods to advertise it?
Twonk Thunder: On here
Twonk Thunder: Item Information - Cloudy Moon El Jefe - backpack.tf
Twonk Thunder: should say
Twonk Thunder: *Sell this item*
Twonk Thunder: Or on your profile which is in the top right corner
Twonk Thunder: Find your item in your backpack
Twonk Thunder: and click sell.
Cheiron | 1 more exam: the website lags as shit
Twonk Thunder: Indeed it does
Twonk Thunder: Go to this trade
Twonk Thunder: and comment on the bottom
Cheiron | 1 more exam: I do not see how to comment
Twonk Thunder: Cloudy Moon El Jefe Duped for 200 Keys.
Twonk Thunder: TF2 Outpost / Trade
Cheiron | 1 more exam: he does not have 200 keys
Cheiron | 1 more exam: only 135
Twonk Thunder: *Sighs*
Cheiron | 1 more exam: oh, it's fine
Cheiron | 1 more exam: I will add him
Twonk Thunder: Also
Twonk Thunder: This guy buys unusuals at quicksell
Twonk Thunder: http://steamcommunity.com/id/HanakoRika/
Twonk Thunder: HAs alot of em
Cheiron | 1 more exam: added
Twonk Thunder: TF2 Outpost / Trade
Twonk Thunder: Ask if he would do the el jefe for 200 keys
Twonk Thunder: On the trade
Twonk Thunder: Another one to do the same with
Twonk Thunder: TF2 Outpost / Trade
Twonk Thunder: That iis all I can find for the moment
Cheiron | 1 more exam: the guy offered me 165
Cheiron | 1 more exam: will wait 1-2 days
Cheiron | 1 more exam: thanks
Cheiron | 1 more exam: if not I will take his offer
Cheiron | 1 more exam: and give you 17 keys
Twonk Thunder: Honestly. 165 isnt that bad of a deal
Cheiron | 1 more exam: I would ahve taken 150 cs:go easily, but he offers in tf2
Twonk Thunder: The clean one wants 250
Twonk Thunder: We want 200
Twonk Thunder: Based on a 300 price thats months old
Twonk Thunder: Ask him if he can do. 180
Cheiron | 1 more exam: i asked
Cheiron | 1 more exam: he offered me 160
Cheiron | 1 more exam: and said that max is 165
Cheiron | 1 more exam: i said that I will take 180 right now, he declined
Twonk Thunder: Tell him to work with you on this.
Cheiron | 1 more exam: what do you mean?
Twonk Thunder: Say
Twonk Thunder: "Work with me on this"
Cheiron | 1 more exam: what is it? :D
Twonk Thunder: "I could do around 175?"
Twonk Thunder: Gada haggle mate
Twonk Thunder: Because honestly 165 is a good trade
Twonk Thunder: But if you go "OOOh ill take 165"
Cheiron | 1 more exam: yeah, but his offer will be up next days
Twonk Thunder: He'll lower it
Cheiron | 1 more exam: so can wait
Twonk Thunder: exactly
Cheiron | 1 more exam: you are getting your keys anyways :)
Twonk Thunder: I know, im trying to get you the most possible amount
Twonk Thunder: If you want on your trade you can put this.
Twonk Thunder: Current offer is 165 Keys "Will most likely do this in a few days"
Twonk Thunder: Like on the bottom of everything
Cheiron | 1 more exam: yeah
Twonk Thunder: So until this goes through, i still wanna say Congrats
Twonk Thunder: Heh
Twonk Thunder: And that was fast.
Cheiron | 1 more exam: yeah, thank you
Cheiron | 1 more exam: would have not done it without you
Twonk Thunder: No problem friend.
Twonk Thunder: Howd you find me if you dont mind me asking.
Twonk Thunder: Your name seems familar
Cheiron | 1 more exam: i added people who offered for this hat
Cheiron | 1 more exam: or quicksellers
Twonk Thunder: Cool
Twonk Thunder: Anywho
Twonk Thunder: Off to actually play the game
Cheiron | 1 more exam: gl
Cheiron | 1 more exam is now Online.
Twonk Thunder: Nice you went on reddit.
Twonk Thunder: Didnt even think about that
Cheiron | 1 more exam: yeah
Twonk Thunder: How do you even start a new thread?
Twonk Thunder: nvm
Twonk Thunder: Also my friend, I didnt want to say anything, but my usual price on brokering is %20
Twonk Thunder: But ill keep it at 10%
Cheiron | 1 more exam is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
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Cheiron | 1 more exam is now Offline.
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Cheiron | 1 more exam is currently offline, they will receive your message the next time they log in.
Twonk Thunder: Aoy
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Twonk Thunder: Dude
Twonk Thunder: You owe me. 

 

As a Quick note, I got in contact with the guy he did the trade with and asked him to pass along this forum so Cheiron would be aware i've posted this. Here is the chat with him.

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Code:

 
Never tell your password to anyone.
Twonk Thunder: Hello man
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: hey
Twonk Thunder: I have a quick question.
Twonk Thunder: Youre the guy who bought the el jefe for pure right?
Twonk Thunder: Off of Cheiron?
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: yeah
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: why?
Twonk Thunder: Reason I ask is I was his broker. And he has jipped on paying me, i told him to contact you. Anyways long story short.
Twonk Thunder: Could you just send him this for me? He has blocked me
Twonk Thunder: http://forums.f-o-g.eu/threads/7521-cheiron-1-more-exam-runner.html#post66655
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: wait
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: why did you give him the unusual without taking the payment?
Twonk Thunder: Can you just send him the link then ill be out of your hair?
Twonk Thunder: He was in possession the entire time, but we had a agreement.
Twonk Thunder: Agreement is enough, 10%
Twonk Thunder: Comes to around 17 keys
Twonk Thunder: Anyways. Your fine, continue selling the hat, it in no way effects you.
Twonk Thunder: Just wondering if you could pass that along
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: definitely
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: i don't do well with scammers
Twonk Thunder: I know right?
Twonk Thunder: I come out of retirement from my endgame
Twonk Thunder: And my first deal is with a scammer
Twonk Thunder: GG
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: lols
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: wait so you found me?
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: not him?
Twonk Thunder: Youre still friends with him, he has blocked me so I cant comment on his profile or talk to him
Twonk Thunder: I followed the hat from his old trade
Twonk Thunder: to you and I figured he would talk to you or whatever
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: oh
Twonk Thunder: Not to talk THROUGH you
Twonk Thunder: Just to pass that along
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: i sent him already
Twonk Thunder: Thanks
Twonk Thunder: Anyways. Have a good day friend.
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: mate
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: http://forums.f-o-g.eu/threads/7521-cheiron-1-more-exam-runner.html#post66655
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: your buddy sent me this
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: ask me to pass it along
Cheiron | 1 more exam: ok
Cheiron | 1 more exam: thanks
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: just for the record
Twonk Thunder: And good luck mate
Twonk Thunder: Thanks
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: you too
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: bye
Twonk Thunder: Bye
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: before i unfriend you
Twonk Thunder: Ya?
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: if there's anything you need me to do to mark him
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: just let me know
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: post on my profile
Twonk Thunder: IDK just comment on the forum or something, This chat should be enough, if you dont mind me using it.
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: go ahead
Twonk Thunder: Alrighty thanks mate
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄]: have a good day
Twonk Thunder: You too.
Major QS>13 UNUS[⇄] is now Offline.

 

I am aware of this post, thank you.
First of all I have to say he indeed gave me some information to go along with.
Our deal was: "Cheiron | 1 more exam: if you find the buyer I give you 10% of the amount". The person helped me to post on outpost, but nobody actually added me because of this. Moreover, I found the buyer myself, and I negociated the price.
Twonk just wanted me to accept any offer so he will get his keys faster(differnce from 160 keys and 180 keys trade is just 2 keys for him), you can clearly see it from the chat.

So to sum it up, he did sell the item for me, therefore I see no reason to give him a %. I ended up quickselling to a person who offered me the max amount I could get in ~4 hours. It had nothing to do with Twonk. Therefore I find the appeal unreasonable. Moreover, it cannot be considered as "scam".

I wish the person best of luck!

 

So the way I traded it is I added all quicksellers I could find and tool the best offer before going to sleep. So what should I pay here for? To make everything clear, I have +25 pages of rep, close to 1000 trades and an inventory of +2500 euro. I have not scammed anyone during the period I am trading, but I also do not want to pay for air and words. I have spent my time reading about TF2, as it was my first trade, I have spent my time adding quicksellers and negociating price. I end up selling it at 50% only.

 

Under Investigation while I'm reading through the lot. Apologies for the wait.

 

Decided to archive.

No scam has taken place, therefore I cannot accept the report.

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