Declined Make a change to a rule.

Ok I'm suggesting we change the you have to be 15 to apply rule and make it 16/17 remember that time where FoG hit a curb where 14/15 year olds kept making crappy apps and stuff? this rule can be abused but it will be kinda obvious if they do.

So anyways yeah make it so you have to be 16/17 to apply, it's kinda annoying thinking you might see a good app and you find a 14 year old app or something, this could benefit us and it might not in some ways, but it'll be more intimidating to shove away them 13/14 year olds, and if it's obvious that they've not at the right age limit they can have a temp ban or something?

 

Who's to say a 15 year old's app wont be just as good as a 19 year old's? It is not about age really. There were also older people doing this as well.
I do not see why an age will stop spam apps, it is just people who do not really care about it...

 

I dont think the people who make crappy apps actually read the rules

 

Counter-suggestion: Remove that rule entirely. It's discriminatory, useless, and unhelpful.

 

I strongly disagree with that.

Even if a younger person appears to write a good app, it doesn't make him trustworthy to be an admin. The younger they are, the more they are emotionaly driven. Now I'm not saying 20yr old wouldn't do it, or 30yr old, it's matter of character, you don't give driving license to a kid just because he looks like he can manage, age restrictions are there for a reason, because mentality of a kid works differently than mentality of an adult and I'm not sure if we are ready to test that theory.

You could say I'm discriminating, but it's just the way I see it and I agree with Pyro's idea. Mainly because there has not been a single case of 13-14 year old person instead of lying to you about his age, actually trying to point out that he's capable of doing what he's applying for.

 

Hello all,

My opinion is that this suggestion is not good and should not be applied.

I dont feel like age is something that can show if we mature or not. I feel like it all depends on the people and their mentality as stated above. All should have chance to apply and try to make it into the Staff team. After all we live in free world and all should try what they want.

I think Admins see and understand great, the people who make the apps and can say if they ready to handle Admin spot.

Regardz
Sonny

 

Kinda disagree with you. I don´t want an imature admin that bans people who killed him/her, just.... Imature

 

Time to dissect this then.

Even if a younger person appears to write a good app, it doesn't make him trustworthy to be an admin. - That logic is flawed. The same applys to anyone/anything.

The younger they are, the more they are emotionaly driven. - True, but, again, this can apply to anyone.

Now I'm not saying 20yr old wouldn't do it, or 30yr old - Yes you are.

you don't give driving license to a kid just because he looks like he can manage - That's another argument completely.

age restrictions are there for a reason - Whether that reason is justified or not is another matter.

because mentality of a kid works differently than mentality of an adult - Damn, you went there. Define "kid" and "adult" based not off age. You'll sure find some "adults" which fit that definition of "kid" better, and vice versa.

I'm not sure if we are ready to test that theory - Welcome to the 21st century. Of course we are.

You could say I'm discriminating - Could? Nah. You are.

Mainly because there has not been a single case of 13-14 year old person instead of lying to you about his age, actually trying to point out that he's capable of doing what he's applying for. - That's because they get hit with "-1 TOO YOUNG OMG FUCK OFF" "-9000 GROW A PAIR" etc instantly. (Extravagant language used for effect. Citation needed.)

 

and I still stand for what I said, you have nothing to back up your words. No example of anyone being the way you are presenting them.

None of these kids ever made a complaint about this rule and why are people reacting like that when someone below the age requirement makes an application ? Because a) they visibly didn't read the requirements b) if they did, they would mention it in their app.

And don't tell me that we are such a little shitheads to never give a room to complain, they can make a thread, they can complain about this. They never did.

 

I've seen people at all ages on this place both lying, being immature and driven by their emotions.

They are not giving driving licenses for driving cars at a certain age, but you can drive a motorcycle long before a car in the same traffic. The logic is broken on that end.

 

I said before it's obvious if someone is under the age limit, what I meant if you read it all, is what making the rule that you have to be 16/17 to apply will be more intimidating and maybe give them second thoughts, and if anyone applies that are under the age limit and it's obvious we hand out temporary bans, simple really.

 

Are you serious? think for a minute what would happen if you did that, FoG would just be a back alleyway filled with useless apps, which then FoG will be in so much chaos that'll we'll have to change the rule back, think for a second, the rule I suggest will be more intimidating to the applicant, and MAYBE it will give them second thoughts on their crappy app? no?

 

I have nothing to back up my words?

By that logic, neither do you.

 

Stating the same thing over and over doesn't automatically make a weak argument stronger.

 

If we did that, nothing would change. We will always get shitty applications, no matter what.

Being intimidating isn't exactly good for a community either, now is it. (Not implying that changing the rule by how much you say will actually be intimidating, as it's not.)

If you truly think changing a number by 1 or 2 will actually affect the quality of applications which come in, you are truly deluded.

 

It's funny because before you and Sam came into this thread I actually suggested something worth noting, and now it's going to turn into a shitstorm, I ain't trying to backup my opinion because frankly I couldn't care less what you have to say, unless it's something on topic of course.

 

So you like having the idea of never seeing good apps or you like bad apps? k

 

That's your opinion, not everyone shares it. And who is driven by his emotions now?

 

My opinion is my own one, and yeah, I don't care what you say, unless it's something on topic which it's not, now stay on topic.

 

You just warped my words badly.
What you are suggesting will not affect the quality of applications in any way at all.

Also, what you suggested is not worth noting, and everything I say is on topic.

Don't post on the internet if you don't want to hear criticism and others' point of view.