Declined !ammo for Jump

For people who wanna just have fun and not play competitively.
We don't get points for anything anyway, so it can't be used for abuse.

For anyone who doesn't know this, shortly, you get infinite ammo/clip after you type it. No reloading, anywhere.
Most jump servers have it.

 

I thought there's already !ammo in jump.
Well you're right.Why not.
It may even help them a bit.

In my oppinion It's good idea.

 

I agree, should be good for the newcomers to the jump maps. For example jump 4starters's beginner zone can be hard because most of them don't know how to sync jump and constantly try to wall jump their way to the top.

 

Forever..?

 

So, triforces laptop is broken and asked me to post his opinion on this, as follows :

Infinite ammo is basically bullshit, barely servers have it and it has nothing to do with beeing competitive, jump 4starters is a basic beginner map, its there to teach you how jumping works, infinite ammo is avoiding this step and most likely cheating. And it makes servers less popular.

tl;dr its an "how to rocketjump map" not an "how to cheat jumping map"

- tri

 

Nobody forces you to play like that. It's just an optional thing, and for sure doesn't make servers less popular.
Who wants to learn the map will play normally, who wants to jump around just having fun will turn it on.

 

10/10 gj, killing the map purpose

why not giving scouts at DR the possibilty to get doublejump?=D

Oh...wait


- tri in school

 

Worst comparison ever =D

The map will still has its purpose, again, this shit is optional.

 

Doublejump at dr= kills map/gamemode purpose ; inf ammo at jump4starters= kills map/gamemode purpose

-tri

 

What part of "optional" do you not get?

 

What part of "its killing the map purpose" do you not get? Looking at your post makes me feeling that my comparison was pretty fitting =D

-tri

 

mad tri is mad
sry for touching your server
rly sry

 

This has nothing to do with beeing mad, seriously, I just really dont get why you'd want to kill the map purpose, it's just as I said, giving dj's on dr, same shit but different toilett

And you said that servers with inf ammo arent less popular right? source pls.

 

Please tell me how exactly would an optional thing kill the whole purpose of the map?

 

Lets say DJ at DR would be optional as well, would it kill the purpose? Whatcha think?

Jump 4starters is learning by doing and not finishing jumpx by skipping/cheating

To give you a better example:

We have Person Z and we have Person Y

Person Y is stuck a3, the first sync-jump in the map, he doesnt know anything about jumping but he wants to learn it.

Now Person Z comes across, does the jump, Y asks him how he did that, Z will give him the hint to enable inf ammo.

=> purpose of the map killed.

Its not only the inf ammo itself, its also 90% of the people who are wanna-be teachers telling others to turn it on and later on all the new people who wanted to learn were walking backwards instead of forwards. It's almost the same with telling "pressing W helps" most people are even suggesting that to troll "trolololo press w to jump better" same goes pretty well with "trololo get good enable inf ammo"

And those trolls are just annoying, here you got one of the reasons why inf ammo servers are less popular =D

The map gets infinite ammo automatically at some points, and thats where it is needed.

 

Their problem. How they want to finish a course is up to them, and if they choose to do it the cheaty way, it's their problem.
DJ at DR is different because, example, if you have !ammo in jump, nobody cares. If you use DJ at DR however, ragestorm and a diarrhea of disconnects would indeed come.
People at DR are trying to reach a finish altogether with traps as obstacles in a given time, on Jump you can go wherever and however you want. That's just one of the reasons.
Like, DJ at DR is like noclip in jump. There, better comparison.

But okay, let's say you won, we still need votes on whether implement it or not. So far you're the only one against it.
Added poll.

 

"Their problem", nice statement really. Thats one of the main issues and the reason why we'd need admins there =D
Dont feed the trolls mate.

And actually I still got the question: whats so hard in understanding that this is a tutorial map basically?xD

I didnt won anything, I just stated the things how I expierenced them.

 

We got admins to prevent one's action(s) to negatively affect others' gameplay in any way (aka moderate), having !ammo does not do that.

And I actually got my question too: What's so hard in understanding that an optional thing does not kill the whole purpose and it's still up to you on which way you want to complete this tutorial map?

 

I understand both of the opinions, but as Tri stated, the idea of the map is to get better at jumping, not to mess around.

Infinite ammo would be the easy way to finish a stage and as we all know, people will most likely choose the easy way, rather than spending ages trying to do it the normal way.

But what if we made !ammo to a VIP benefit? Or that the jump server would have its own point system and when you've reached a certain amount of points, you would get !ammo for a certain time or stage (I have no idea if it would work).

Anyway, as a command for everyone... it's a no from me.