Implemented Surf: Improvement suggestions

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  1. MeisterKleister

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    Suggestion:
    Remove or, better yet, fix surf_vegetables. Especially the last stage is unsurfable because it's completely cluttered up with "error boxes" and you have to mostly surf blind through it.

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    I actually really like this map from playing it in CS:S, so I'd love to see it get fixed (with bonus if possible :) )instead of completely removed.
     
  2. Chewyy

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    Its not the server, its your version of the map. Go into your CSGO map folder and delete surf_vegetables. When you join the map again, it will redownload it and everything should be fine :)
     
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    Are you sure? I thought I downloaded the map for the first time when I joined the server a few days ago and some other guys seemed to confirm that these error boxes exist for them too, especially in the last stage. Plus, one guy said he knew the server owner and told him about this problem.

    Anyway since I know this map quite well from surfing it a lot in CS:S I was actually able to finish the final stage after 15 minutes or so at which point everyone got teleported into jail, which would've been normal if this was a normal round-based match. This is still a problem.

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    There are many other people who finished this map so I already guessed that some people do have a proper version of this map.
     
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  4. MeisterKleister

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    Now after deleting the map when I try to connect it just waits for a minute and then goes "Connection failed after 10 retries". I've looked around but couldn't find a download for vegetables here on the forum. And with another download I found via Google I still can't connect to the map. Please help! :(

    Edit: Still doesn't work and other people explicitly confirmed that the map is buggy and it's not just my version.
     
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  5. Chewyy

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    Reminder of current issues:

    1. Higher endzones on following maps: (with higher i mean up to the ceiling)
    -surf_the_gloaming_rat
    -surf_dynasty
    -surf_inspire

    2. When you are in spectator mode your chat messages still show up twice.

    3. A lot of people were asking for a "Show Keys" option, to see the pressed keys when spectating someone.
     
  6. n0name

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  7. Chewyy

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    UPDATE

    I collected some feedback from the community and also want to mention some other stuff:

    1. Endzone surf_inspire: The new endzone is better but should be made higher (up to the ceiling).
    Endzone surf_the_gloaming_rat: Go back to the old endzone and make it higher (up to the ceiling).

    2. Sort the maplist, that shows up after you type !nominate alphabetical, so its easier to find maps.

    3. Extend time should be increased from 10 to 15 min.

    4. Wrong mapinfo on following maps:
    -surf_happyhands2 ( its tier 3, not 1)
    -surf_inspire( tier 2, not 1)

    5. Sound Feedback for breaking the map record (A short sound that plays after someone beates the wr)

    6. Maps people suggested:
    -surf_furios (tier:2)
    -surf_glass7 (tier:2)
    -surf_glass9 (tier:2)
    -surf_mesa_aether (tier:2)
    -surf_pandemonium_njv (tier:3)

    That would be all, everything else is working fine from the last update.
     
  8. azeton

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    Hey,

    I joined your Community 2 days ago and wanted to thank you for hosting so awesome smooth Servers. I wanted to suggest a few Maps, for both, Easy and Skillsurf.

    My Map suggestions (some of them may be on the Server or suggested already):

    Tier1

    Staged

    surf_crazyfrog_reloaded
    surf_derpis_ksf
    surf_water-run_banjo
    surf_oma

    Linear

    surf_rebel_scaz_njv
    surf_lullaby_ksf
    surf_akai_final
    surf_trance_ksf
    surf_leet_xl_beta7z_
    surf_forbidden_ways_ksf
    surf_rebel_resistance_njv


    Tier2

    Staged

    surf_eclipse
    surf_kz_protraining
    surf_lore_e
    surf_delusional_
    surf_annoyance_njv
    surf_colours
    surf_ny_platinum
    surf_boring
    surf_healthy_e
    surf_presmon_fix

    Linear

    surf_newb_hazard_r1
    surf_sundown_njv
    surf_reprise
    surf_mesa_mine
    surf_happyhands_test
    surf_glass9
    surf_glass7
    surf_amplitude_light
    surf_flyin_fortress
    surf_network_2008_final
    surf_network_2009_njv
    surf_networked


    Tier3

    Staged

    surf_olympics_sns
    surf_acp_fix
    surf_amplitude_apex_njv
    surf_animals
    surf_bork_nbv
    surf_compulsive_njv
    surf_commune_too_beta5
    surf_ember_sns
    surf_smile
    surf_thembrium_sns
    surf_voteforthisone



    Tier6

    Staged

    surf_omnific_lt (18 Stages T1-T6)



    Unsorted Maps:

    surf_concept (Staged maybe harder than Tier3)
    surf_imex_njv (Staged maybe harder than Tier3)
    surf_exocube (Staged sometimes Tier2, sometimes Tier3)
    surf_pinkbash (Staged Tier2-Tier3)
    surf_two_colours (Staged Tier2(hard)-Tier3)
    surf_overgrowth2 (Staged Tier4)
    surf_forbidden_tomb2_njv (Tier4)
    surf_forbidden_tomb3 (Tier4)
    surf_legendary (Staged Tier5)
    surf_stonework3 (Staged Tier5)
    surf_unreal2_ (Staged Tier5)
     
  9. n0name

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    #1 : Fixed.

    #2 : Should be sorted now, may need a mapchange or two to update on all Surf's.

    #3 : Updated it.

    #4 : Fixed.

    #5 : Added to all Surf's, beating the WR plays the HOLY SHIT sound in quake style

    #6 : Added surf_glass7, surf_glass9 and surf_mesa_aether.
    The others had issues with either crashing the server, jail teleporting or server crashes.
     
  10. Chewyy

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    Update:

    surf_aweles needs a higher endzoen (up to the ceiling), same with surf_ing

    surf_faint_fix should be removed, since there is a dumb bug that allows you to remove a trigger.

    add a !hud option that hides your timer completely (only screen visible)

    add a noclip command called !nc or !noclip that stops your timer and allows you to look through the map

    The playerinfo is old and outdated, it needs a complete remake. I gonna post some example screens soon.
    Thats how a good playerinfo looks: Link

    Map list:


    1. surf_004_final1 (tier 3)
    2. surf_1day (tier 3)
    3. surf_6 (tier 3)
    4. surf_ace_fix (tier 2)
    5. surf_ambient (tier 3)
    6. surf_amplitude_apex (tier 3)
    7. surf_amplitude_encore (tier 2)
    8. surf_asrown (tier 3)
    9. surf_ataque_final (tier 3)
    10. surf_auroria (tier 3)
    11. surf_auroria2 (tier 3)
    12. surf_christmas (tier 3)
    13. surf_compulsive_njv (tier 3)
    14. surf_concept (tier 3)
    15. surf_construction (tier 3)
    16. surf_creation (tier 3)
    17. surf_crzyfrog_reloaded (tier 2)
    18. surf_cyka (tier 3)
    19. surf_deceptive (tier 3)
    20. surf_destiny_fixed (tier 3)
    21. surf_diminsion (tier 3)
    22. surf_diverge (tier 3)
    23. surf_ember_sns (tier 3)
    24. surf_ecosystem (tier 3)
    25. surf_exxak (tier 2)
    26. surf_exocube (tier 2)
    27. surf_flyin_fortress (tier 2)
    28. surf_frequency (tier 3)
    29. surf_globalchaos (tier 2)
    30. surf_halloween_tf (tier 2)
    31. surf_happyhands (tier 2)
    32. surf_imex (tier 3)
    33. surf_impact (tier 3)
    34. surf_industries (tier 3)
    35. surf_inrage (tier 3)
    36. surf_jenocide (tier 2)
    37. surf_masonry (tier 3)
    38. surf_missing_no (tier 3)
    39. surf_mynah_final (tier 3)
    40. surf_nemesis (tier 3)
    41. surf_neo_njv (tier 2)
    42. surf_network_2009 (tier 2)
    43. surf_nexus (tier 2)
    44. surf_oma (tier 1)
    45. surf_omnibus (tier 3)
    46. surf_oompa_loompa (tier 3)
    47. surf_pandemonium_njv (tier 3)
    48. surf_pinkbash (tier 2)
    49. surf_plethora_fix (tier 3)
    50. surf_porn_fix (tier 3)
    51. surf_presmon_fix (tier 2)
    52. surf_prosaic (tier 3)
    53. surf_psi_fixed (tier 3)
    54. surf_psycho_njv (tier 2)
    55. surf_purgatory (tier 3)
    56. surf_quantum_njv (tier 3)
    57. surf_retroartz (tier 3)
    58. surf_singletons (tier 1)
    59. surf_sluice (tier 3)
    60. surf_smaragd (tier 3)
    61. surf_smile (tier 3)
    62. surf_static (tier 3)
    63. surf_stonework2 (tier 3)
    64. surf_thembrium_njv (tier 3)
    65. surf_togo (tier 3)
    66. surf_torque (tier 3)
    67. surf_tron_njv (tier 2)
    68. surf_voteforthisone (tier 3)




    Download Link for surf_ace since its pretty new: Link

    Download-Links for most of the maps listed above can be found here: Maps

    Surf_cyka can be found in the Steam workshop, by simply searching it
     
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  11. Rizor

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    surf_colors_beta1 -> !stage, 9 doesn't work
    surf_sunnyhappylove -> !r is buggy
    surf_lament_n2p -> changing the start/spawn points after a fail (don't know if you can do this without changing the map version)
    surf_utopia_v3 -> need a new map version where you can't get to the MG at the end
    surf_coralis_ksf- -> need a new map version because the elevator doesn't work in this one like he should
    surf_the_gloaming_rat-> !stage -> end is buggy because you stuck in the ground than
    surf_newb_hazard_r1 -> got 2 endzones for some reason which I dont understand

    Other suggestions:
    1. A new style for !style -> HSW
    2. Allow spectating players to use the !hide function
    3. Updating the !playerinfo menu
    -> 2. View Points/Rank isn't working
    -> "View incomplete maps" and "View incomplete maps (bonus)" isn't working properly
    -> add "View all Records (short)" and "View all WRs (short)" and "View incomplete maps (short)"
    -> "View all records" and the other functions are saying there are 159 maps (but you can only nominate 102) so seems like there is something outdated aswell
    4. don't know if that work but change the movement speed of pistols aswell to 250 (like knifes are) because some poeple like to surf with pistols but they lose the 10 speed at the beginning
    5. some letters still won't display right in !top (makes a few names look ugly)
     
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  12. Chewyy

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    Result after testing all maps:


    Working maps:

    1. surf_1day (tier 3)
    2. surf_6 (tier 3)
    3. surf_ace_fix (tier 2)
    4. surf_amplitude_apex (tier 3)
    5. surf_amplitude_encore (tier 2)
    6. surf_asrown (tier 3)
    7. surf_auroria2 (tier 3)
    8. surf_christmas (tier 3)
    9. surf_compulsive_njv (tier 3)
    10. surf_cyka (tier 3)
    11. surf_deceptive (tier 3)
    12. surf_destiny_fixed (tier 3)
    13. surf_diminsion (tier 3)
    14. surf_diverge (tier 3)
    15. surf_ember_sns (tier 3)
    16. surf_ecosystem (tier 3)
    17. surf_exocube (tier 2)
    18. surf_frequency (tier 3)
    19. surf_halloween_tf (tier 2)
    20. surf_nemesis (tier 3)
    21. surf_neo_njv (tier 2)
    22. surf_omnibus (tier 3)
    23. surf_oompa_loompa (tier 3)
    24. surf_pinkbash (tier 2)
    25. surf_prosaic (tier 3)
    26. surf_psi_fixed (tier 3)
    27. surf_quantum_njv (tier 3)
    28. surf_retroartz (tier 3)
    29. surf_smaragd (tier 3)
    30. surf_static (tier 3)
    31. surf_stonework2 (tier 3)
    32. surf_thembrium_njv (tier 3)
    33. surf_voteforthisone (tier 3)


    Maps with minor bugs:

    1. surf_masonry (tier 3) --> its zoned linear, but should be a 2 staged map
    2. surf_mynah_final (tier 3) --> not zoned
    3. surf_network_2009 (tier 2) --> failing sometimes ports you in a dark room, !r works. Also endzone higher
    4. surf_plethora_fix (tier 3) --> couldnt check endzone !stage stucks you
    5. surf_smile (tier 3) --> not zoned
    6. surf_missing_no (tier 3) --> crashed the server for some reason


    Maps that should be added from the t3-6 to the 1-3:

    1. surf_cookiejar (tier 3)
    2. surf_lighthouse (tier 3)
    3. surf_depths (tier 3)
    4. surf_this_njv (tier 3)
    5. surf_liberation (tier 3)
    6. surf_blackout_v1 (tier 3)


    Backup maps :

    surf_b_r_o_x_x_x (tier 2)
    surf_grassland (tier 2)
    surf_water_run_banjo_skill (tier 1)
    surf_sci_fi (tier 3)
    surf_lessons (tier 2)
    surf_ny_momentum2_ksf (tier 3)
    surf_bork (tier 3)
    surf_oma (tier 1)
     
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    Went through it.

    Working maps:
    1. surf_cookiejar (tier 3)
    2. surf_lighthouse (tier 3)
    3. surf_depths (tier 3)
    4. surf_this_njv (tier 3)
    5. surf_liberation (tier 3)
    6. surf_blackout_v1 (tier 3)
    7. surf_grassland (tier 2)
    8. surf_lessons (tier 2)
    9. surf_ny_momentum2_ksf (tier 3)
    10. surf_bork (tier 3)

    Fixed:
    1. surf_masonry
    2. surf_smile (njv variant) (tier 3)

    Not working:
    surf_b_r_o_x_x_x (tier 2) -> Jail from which you can't exit out of
    surf_oma (tier 1) -> Same as above
    surf_water_run_banjo_skill (tier 1) -> water bug
    surf_sci_fi (tier 3) -> too big (192MB, max is 140MB)
    surf_mynah_final -> Jail again
    surf_network_2009 -> Unable to fix buggy teleporter
    surf_plethora_fix (tier 3) -> Weird endzone
    surf_missing_no -> crashing server
     
  14. Trisstar

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    Sitting here trying get into the server with surf_christmas playing, after downloading to 100% it disconnects me and tells me I'm missing the map, right now the server is empty so I'm guessing it happens to everyone...

    EDIT: Same thing now happening on surf_halloween
     
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    Go into your game folders and delete that file and connect again.
     
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    Seems like both maps are too big (christmas 200MB, halloween 190), therefore, CS:GO doesn't download it.
    Maximum file size is 140MB, idiotic Valve.

    Removed them.
     
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    Why not compress them or remove some assets or something?
     
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    They are already compressed on the fastDL server, but CSGO measures the size of the uncopressed map.
    Also, we can't really remove assets without having the original map (decompiling often fucks up the map).
     
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    surf_liberation doesnt seem to work either, I have gotten stuck at "loading" both times I've seen it been played.
     
  20. Chewyy

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    Some small fixes

    Found some things that would ned a fix:


    1. surf_exocube The version on the server is the wrong one. There is surf_exocube_h (h for hard) and the normal.
    The version on the server atm is exocube_h which is a tier 5 map ^^. We would need the normal version here.


    2. One map is missing that already got tested: surf_ember_sns


    3. A few maps from the tier 3-6 should be ported to the 1-3:

    -surf_methadone (tier 3)
    -surf_canisius2 (tier 3)
    -surf_refraxis (tier 3)
    -surf_liberation2 (tier 3)

    4. There is a wrong mapinfo on surf_frequenzy. It is tier 3 not tier 1.


    5. The bonus start zone on surf_ace_fix needs a fix. If you do !stage and then Bonus its all black.
     
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