Accepted Ban Appeal - [GIRL] PEASANT

Ban Appeal​

SteamRep Block

| steamname: [GIRL] PEASANT
| steam3ID: [U:1:93501643]
| steamID32: STEAM_0:1:46750821
| steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198053767371
| customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Phonography
| steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198053767371 ​

What was your in-game name when you got banned?

[GIRL] PEASANT ​

When did it happen?

18.01.2015, 18:42 ​

What's the specified reason?

Multiple trading with marked scammers ​

Why do you think you should be unbanned?

Hi.

I have never been banned for trading unknowingly with marked scammers before. It just so happens that I coincidentally traded with both of them within 4 days of eachother.

I don't normally check steamrep with who I'm trading with. Before I add anyone I check if their profile is not private and have enough gametime. If they don't meet my standards then I block them. This can be proved by the amount of profiles I have blocked ( https://imgur.com/a/oZC2D )

Outpost is currently reviewing my Ban Appeal. I understand that you can get banned/marked for KNOWINGLY trading with marked scammers, but I never had the intention to as I never knew. I am also currently banned on Backpack.tf. Originally for 2 weeks, but after my appeal there, it was reduced to 1 week.

Regarding the banned people I traded with...
| steamname: ☁TTT☁ SELLING UNUSUALS
| steam3ID: [U:1:115875201]
| steamID32: STEAM_0:1:57937600
| steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198076140929
| customURL:
| steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198076140929
As I said above I don't normally check SteamRep with who I trade with and only judge by their profile. When I first looked at TTT's profile I looked for his Steam Level (20) and his recent gametime (86.7 hours past 2 weeks) and thought he was pretty safe.
My trade with him: imgur: the simple image sharer - My Burning Medic's Mountain Cap for his Hearts Conquistador + Miami Nights Cannonball + Stormy Storm Coupe D'isaster + 1 Gifted Earbud.
I believe at this time I wasn't doing anything on Steam, but I was watching a movie. (Gone Girl I'm pretty sure)
Vetro was also marked for trading with him, but later appealed. (http://forums.f-o-g.eu/threads/4892-ban-appeal-vetro)

| steamname: (◔) Buddha
| steam3ID: [U:1:74040633]
| steamID32: STEAM_0:1:37020316
| steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198034306361
| customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/buddhagm
| steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198034306361
Same goes with Buddha. Steam Level 8, 10.8 hours past 2 weeks and 1,178 total TF2 playtime. Again, seemed pretty safe.
My trade with him: http://i.imgur.com/9uruby6.png - My 9 earbuds for Green Energy Blighted Beak + Planets Team Captain + Bubbling Haw With No Name. I was buying quicksell unusuals at the time.
I believe at the time of trading with him I was playing Binding of Isaac: Rebirth.

All in all, hopefully this ban gets lifted as I'm an avid contributor to backpack.tf and hopefully my buddies can back me up and say that I had no intentions in trading with marked scammers and never again. I know I should be more wary of who I trade with, but I've never had this kind of thing happen to me. If this ban does get lifted I will make it certain that I check SteamRep more often for background information on who I trade with.

Thank you for reading. ​

 

1) blocked users is meaningless. I have over 2,000 accounts blocked. around half of which are phishers. Anyone can block accounts that argument is fundamentally flawed from the beginning

2) Gone Girl released on blueray/dvd on january 13th and that's when the trade occurred. Did you buy said DVD/Blue-ray on that same day? (asking for consistency)

3) The fact that vetro appealed his ban is meaningless. You still traded with a scammer.

4) There seems to be a pattern... I was watching a movie when I did the trade, I was playing the binding of isaac when I did this trade. It doesn't matter what you were doing. It's your problem and job to check reputation for all trades.

 

1. It's just a point to prove that I don't just add randoms who add me, unlike some people out there. Also it's not part of my main 'argument' in this appeal, it's just an additional info that I thought would help me with this appeal.
2. Stream
3.Just pointing out what happened to Vetro and how he unkowingly traded with a marked (and was successful in his appeal). Thought it was relevant to include as it both involved the user TTT
4. Yeah I know, but as I said in my first, second and last points, I never really check SteamRep as I am rarely put in a position where I have to check players trust when trading with them

 

Oh, I'm dumb. Just remembered http://m.imgur.com/lxuRoGs0 . This is the occasion where I did check steam rep because as you can see in his profile he is Steam Level 4 (maybe lower at the time) and doesn't have a lot of TF2 playtime. I said in this status 'Because I've never had a scammer Try to sell me something before believe it or not' and 'Lucky I had time to check though'. Again, due to this ban, I will make sure to check SteamRep more and to NEVER trade with scammers/scammer alto.

Thanks.

 

Forte what are you doing giving peasant a hard time about this...it was obviously a mistake and he/she said she will be more careful from now on. Also this ban should have NEVER happened as Mattie @ Steam Rep has stated you can only be marked if you have traded with scammers 3 or more times.
Also you shouldnt be the one talking http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198088660638

 

Cheers for the help Neiroda. Never knew that can only get marked if you've traded with 3 or more scammers. And yes, as I've said it was a mistake, I was careless and will never let it happen again.

Cheers

 

It can happen to anyone. Don't let this small error set you back too much Peasant, I think it's pretty sad that we have to be so wary of who we are trading with as many people prefer to be able to just jump into a trade without any other concerns.

 

This is considered spam and it's ultimately up to the discretion of the community not to SR. They partnered with FoG and give FoG the right to distribute tags. If they feel peasant deserves a scammer tag given his trades then he will have a scammer tag. The trade I committed were both of lower value than peasant's trade and only one offense. Maybe you should shut your mouth, learn how partners on SR work. Stay out of this and go back to sharking kids with your backpack.tf premium.

 

It won't set me back, I will keep striving forward! And yes, its a sad world indeed where we have to be so cautious on who we trade with.

 

Let's not start a fight here.

 

1. I dont have backpack.tf premium

2. What are the penalties for trading or buying from BANNED scammers or obvious scammer alts?

If you knowingly trade with banned profiles or obvious scammer alt accounts (with extremely low hours), you are putting your reputation at risk. SteamRep's policy is to be understanding when an innocent trader makes a mistake or when the monetary value is relatively low. Yet, we cannot encourage scammers to profit from their theft. ​
New traders: New traders who are unaware of SteamRep will not receive penalties to their reputations, but will receive a one-time warning.
First offense:
Item/Game trades: You will receive a one-time warning for any high-value item or game trade with a BANNED account or an obvious scammer alternate account. (This warning will be a temporary CAUTION tag that will be removed when you contact SteamRep admins.)
Cash trades: You will receive a CAUTION reputation tag for cash exchanges for high-value items with a banned scammer or obvious alternate scammer acount. Helping scammers profit is not something we can encourage.
Second offense:
You were already warned: You will receive a CAUTION reputation tag.
You already have a CAUTION tag: You will be BANNED for working with scammers.
Third offense: You will be BANNED for participating in fraud.

 

emphasis on the NEW TRADERS. He is not a new trader. He has been around for years. Users have received full scammer tags for 1 trade on some occasions. It's ultimately up to the discretion of the community.

SR also has different policies than it's partners in some cases. EG: SR doesn't accept fake rep reports. Communities do. Do you really want to argue about the trading with scammers policies... with ME of all people?

 

Just going to say: Depending on the values of the trade depends on how we mark, among other things.

 

Ye but as I said, this is really the first time I've encountered a marked scammer that I've traded with without checking their reputation. But yeah, I get where you're coming from.

 

But you traded with 3 different scammers at least as per the evidence shown on outpost. I would hardly say it's your "first time" you did it at least 3 times. It's also possible there were multiple transactions with each user and previous offenses. I will now be searching your trade history in its entirety to confirm the validity of your statements.

 

I have found many questionable transactions you committed. They are sorted by user traded with

TF2 Outpost / Item Trade with a non-obvious scammer alt
TF2 Outpost / Item
TF2 Outpost / Item
TF2 Outpost / Item

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TF2 Outpost / Item TRADE WITH A USER WHO HAD A PENDING SCAMMER REPORT
TF2 Outpost / Item
TF2 Outpost / Item


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TF2 Outpost / Item TRADE WITH A USER WHO WAS PENDING WITH SCAMMER REPORTS

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TF2 Outpost / Item TRADE WITH A USER WHO WAS PENDING WITH SCAMMER REPORTS

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TF2 Outpost / Item
http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,1489439526,55,5

TRADE WITH A MARKED SCAMMER!!! TRADE OCCURRED UNDER 2 YEARS AGO TF2 Outpost / Trade AND THE USER HAS BEEN MARKED FOR OVER 2 YEARS

| steamname: xeNoN!*
| steam3ID: [U:1:84097490]
| steamID32: STEAM_0:0:42048745
| steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198044363218
| customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/xenonasas
| steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198044363218

I can continue if you'd like

 

I seem to have forgot to include that in this appeal but I certainly put it in my Outpost one. That was when I got hijacked from my account a while back. The guy who hijacked me bought stuff from another scammer as well as trading my current items at the time away. http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/76561198053767371-peasant.24191/

 

As for the others

My trade with him occured on September 22 2014. He was banned on November 22 2014.
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My trade with him occured on July 26 2014. He was banned on January 6 2015.
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My trade with him occured around July 18-26 2014 TF2 Outpost / Trade. He was banned on August 1 2014.
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My trade with him occured on May 14 2014. He was banned on July 7 2014.

So as you can see, I've only traded with these people BEFORE they were banned.

 

for the reply you gave me the time of marking is meaningless.

I am aware of marking date being after the trade.

The first User: A scammer alt, not obvious but still an alt. Nothing worth rejecting an appeal over regarding those trades (or hurting) but worth mentioning

the second user: Had pending steamrep reports at time of trade

Third user: had pending steamrep reports at the time of trade

The forth user: Could you please upload the trade history showing the time the trades with these items occurred and your ticket? (assuming it's not all in the outpost notes?

 

I don't think the second and third user count as trading with a scammer or getting a warning as I'm pretty sure it's only for trading any high value items or game with a banned or marked account.

As for the fourth user, I'm not quite sure why you need a ticket for? Unless you mean the fifth user for which I appealed on Outpost as I was banned on Outpost and NOT SteamRep