norage in VSH ???

As no-one has told me that we havent made a decision(Shhhh Zath) about having norage or not on VSH. I would just like to make a thread to see how many people do actually want norage or with rage. So could you comment if you would like NORAGE or if you would like RAGE. Thanks
Or just vote in the pooll !

EDIT: Most of views have been commented.
AGAINST NORAGE:
1) Saxton is an OP guy, it would be stupid taking his powers away from here. When there is just 1 of him and many of us.
2) How is he suppose to get rid of those sentries nests with ubered meds ?
3) Why would you want to ruin the tradition of him having rage, that is how he is suppose to be like. other "you may aswell replace him with someone else"
FOR NORAGE:
1) You can "adapt very easily" to NORAGE.
2) More skill involved.
3) More enjoyable and less people arguing and spamming " RAGE NUB"

 

Well norage offcourse, rage is pretty annoying.

 

Just decrease the range a bit, then it should be fine by me.

 

Meh, that would be good.
(totally did not edit this)

 

Without rage, Saxton is ill-equipped to deal with a sentry nest protected by medics, airblast pyros and classes doing so much knockback damage on him.

I'd hate to be that Saxton.

 

Okay, thanks for your viewww. I actually agree with Downie. Decrease the range

 

Well i think if no rage wins,the only logical way would be to remove infinite ammo aswell,so we need a vote/think about that aswell.
I personally voted for no rage.

 

Less common rage less range of rage.. Would be fine but common guys norage will always win.

 

If you disable rage, at least enable weighdown or make it that it actually WORKS. It's annoying every time i wanted to get down quickly that it didn't work. Rage distance can be decreased, but it sure as hell isn't OP. That's what VSH is about, VS Haxton Sale, who is just that OP.

 

Rage 8)

 

Weighdown does work I use it all the time..... You press cntrl and look down <3

 

I vote for Rage
Since its the fun fact about Saxton Hale.
You may offcourse decrease the range.
But leave the rage be more fun like that since as @Jozzeh said, Saxton would be weak.






....HQGroup....

 

I don't seem to rage but would you call me weak? It is easy to adapt to norage and I think it is better without, then it is more about how you attack and take them out not how many rage kills you can do in the round...

 

Just reduce the range and reduce the fear with 1 sec

 

How do you plan on dealing with people who instantly bunch up and work together, shutting Saxton Hale down to a complete notch?

The main idea is that Saxton is a super powerful guy. Weakening him is sort of just defeating the purpose.
Might as well replace the manly Australian with someone else.

 

That is kind of the hole aim of saxton, you see teamwork and you know in order to defeat it you got to find their weakspots etc, on norage that is what happens. I can tell you that it is actually the people who work together but do not bunch up who live longer and on the norages I play it is actually more enjoyable as you have to be more aware of things than just a full frontal assault with rage as your way to win. Ridding him of rage only makes him stronger.

 

It's not hard to kill people as a hale if you actually know how to etc. Ofcourse at the beginnign for "weaker" people it may be abit hard,but you will learn it and get used to it (that's my perspective btw). - Meaning YES ; NO RAGE.

 

Yeah, reducing it by 1 second. I remember so many times that if i had 1 second to spare i could of got away, even has heavy. B)

 

I've played plenty of VSH in my many hours of team fortress 2.

Saxton already has a hole which is only widened if you remove the only tool he has to fight back with.
Do you really enjoy watching saxton chase a scout for the rest of the match?
Do you enjoy being permanently airblasted back, unable to do anything because the pyro isn't running out of ammo?
How do you plan on reaching the engineer(s) that have a nest of sentries with knockback too strong for you to simply reach them, rendering jumping useless?

Ergo, you'll have to remove infinite ammo as well or else it'll be too easy for the mercenaries to bring him down.
That'd make engineers more valuable teammates to protect as well due to their dispensers.

It's not a "challenge" I think many people would enjoy. It'd just make you wish you weren't Saxton.

 

That's what i'm saying, remove infinite ammo aswell.

But i definitly agree on removing inf ammo + rage, that'd be the logical way,otherwise it'd be too unfair i agree on that,which i why i suggest (i suggested on thread not here) that if they remove rage they should also remove the inf ammo.

I hope downy/noname actually thinks about this idea and let's it go trough their mind,because at the moment it's just terrible with ragers.

Thank you all for reading and have a nice day.